Some Detergents… (1979-83)

Some Detergents were an electro/synth-pop act put together in 1979 by Chris Shaw (synths, one of the founding members of Dalek I Love You, alongside Alan Gill, Dave Balfe and David Hughes) with schoolfriend Chris Russell (vocals, also in the Games, later Sense of Vision), and, from 1981, Brendan Coyle (synths, also in the Games). Coyle remembers: ‘I met the two Chris’ at Bradys and we thought we had the same musical differences. I ahd my electronic moods and they had their sixties moods – and we though we could combine them. So when the Games split I approached the two Chris and, well it seems to blend’ (Breakout Mag, July 1982). Before Coyle the band went through phases where several musicians were tried out: ‘We’ve had other people who’ve past through, but we always seemed to find that our certain sound – which is for us Some Detergents – was being eroded, so it never really worked out with anyone else’ (Popeye Mag, March 1982).

When it comes to define their musical style they claim: ‘Well, we’re not really a synth band. We use guitars mainly and have synths as backing. We have rhythm units down on tape and mix this with live drums to give a good flavour’ (Breakout Mag, July 1982). The fact of having been in or around such bands as Dalek I Love You influenced a lot the band’s style, in terms of sounds and song structure. Shaw concedes: ‘Although the single is not simple, it’s complex actually, we’re moving towards simplified music. When we got the single and listened to it, we realised it was too complex − too much information in it’ (Breakout Mag, July 1982).

As to the origin of the name the band recalls: ‘We were all sitting around watching TV discussing a suitable name, when Chrissy [Russell]’s sister – during the adverts –said ‘Some detergents have nice names’ and that was it!’

The band first and only single was released in 1982:

Moderne Problem (1982)

- Colours

- Moderne Problem

- Wake Up

‘We’ve written the songs between us. We don’t make compromises – we’ve got to be one hundred percent sure about every note, sound, lyric. It’s obviously not easy but eventually we arrive at a satisfactory result. Each song is brought about like a kind of collage. Different textures of sounds are put together – the latest electronic sounds with the raw sixties moods, utilising acoustic instruments. The songs take modern problems, social human problems. We present them to the listener but we don’t try to make any particular statement or judgement’ (Popeye Mag, March 1982). As to the rather unusual cover of the single Russell concedes: ‘Well, me and Chris used to work in Hamburg and when we were in supermarkets we noticed the packaging was really nice so when we came home we brought some and because I went to art college I was interested in this and so I designed the cover.’ (Breakout Mag, July 1982)

Thanks to Janice Long (Radio Merseyside, Street Life), John Peel and Peter Powell, who played extensively their single, Some Detergents gained a remarkable reputation even before playing any gig. When they eventually did, they lived up to the expectations: ‘Some Detergents proved that what they were capable of in a studio could be reproduced, note-perfect, in a live situation – over a backing of rhythms, the group played bass, electric and acoustic guitar and synthesiser to create a full rich sound. Their music has, in the past, been described as using 60s moods, perhaps the main reason for this being their enviable ability to write memorable melodies coupled with thoughtful lyrics’ (Merseysound #26, October 1982). Live gigs, although quite infrequent, provided the occasion for playing new material, among which unrecorded songs like Don’t Go Out Tonight, What Romance and the instrumental I Want to Look at Pictures.

In 1983 Some Detergents disbanded, and Shaw and Russell formed Sense Of Vision, with former Games keyboardist Colin Hughes.

moderne problem

(see also: http://www.nexthomegeneration.com/Chris_Shaw_%28musician%29

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Shaw_%28musician%29 )